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 Post subject: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:19 pm 
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I'm in the market for a piston driven AR, and my search has landed me to LWRC. I was kind of bummed about the A2 because it didn't have the ability to change the gas settings for a surpressor. Then, I randomly heard that there was something called a M6A5 which did, and I rejoiced...but then couldn't find a trace of the gun on the main website.

So, my question is two parts: 1) Why isn't the M6A5 on the website and 2) What is the differences between the M6A5 and the M6IC.

From what I understand right now is both have the same gas system. I liked everything about the M6IC but the way the barrel looks, reminds me of liquorish. So are the differences only cosmetic? If some, specifically, what are the differences. Thanks in advance and if you can post pictures too that would be amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:40 pm 
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You can have your dealer order you an M6A5 whenever you like. Not sure if they're still exclusive to RSR though. Dunno why it's not yet listed on the site since they even say it's the M6A3's replacement, but it is available via dealers. Several options there.

Differences are the upper receiver and how it interfaces with the rail (classic/SPR style on A5, new extended upper receiver on IC,) the barrel as you mentioned (fluted on IC, standard profile on A5,) gas block (railed & with bayo lug on IC, low profile on A5,) and the lower (new billet-esque forged lower with ambi controls on IC, classic/regular lower on the A5.)

Otherwise they're pretty much the same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:56 pm 
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Differences are the upper receiver and how it interfaces with the rail (classic/SPR style on A5, new extended upper receiver on IC,) the barrel as you mentioned (fluted on IC, standard profile on A5,) gas block (railed & with bayo lug on IC, low profile on A5,) and the lower (new billet-esque forged lower with ambi controls on IC, classic/regular lower on the A5.)

Otherwise they're pretty much the same thing.


With the rail, what is the supposed purpose of the new "extended upper receiver"? Was there an issue with the older model?


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:55 am 
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It's a much stronger interface between receiver and barrel. No problem, just a step forward.

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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:14 am 
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van halen wrote:
It's a much stronger interface between receiver and barrel. No problem, just a step forward.


Interesting. Just curious, where could I get more info, like a review, on the M6A5, as well as the IC. I've looked all over the internet and you guys are stating things that I hadn't found yet elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:50 am 
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MessengerAT wrote:
van halen wrote:
It's a much stronger interface between receiver and barrel. No problem, just a step forward.


Interesting. Just curious, where could I get more info, like a review, on the M6A5, as well as the IC. I've looked all over the internet and you guys are stating things that I hadn't found yet elsewhere.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVpxkhLDlDE


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:05 am 
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TENMMIKE wrote:
MessengerAT wrote:
van halen wrote:
It's a much stronger interface between receiver and barrel. No problem, just a step forward.


Interesting. Just curious, where could I get more info, like a review, on the M6A5, as well as the IC. I've looked all over the internet and you guys are stating things that I hadn't found yet elsewhere.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVpxkhLDlDE


Yeah, that's pretty much the only video/info I could find on the M6A5, and even then that guys review isn't really a review.


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:45 am 
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IC >A5 strictly because of the lower. True the upper is a better, stronger design but that in no way means the a5 or current spr setup is weak.

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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
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Vdub5818 wrote:
IC >A5 strictly because of the lower. True the upper is a better, stronger design but that in no way means the a5 or current spr setup is weak.



I am not well versed on how the lower is different in the two guns. Could you describe please what is different?

Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
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All ambi controls, even the charging handle.

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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
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van halen wrote:
All ambi controls, even the charging handle.



So, performance wise they are the same? I'm not so interested in the ambi controls. I really would like to get a M6A5, but I just want to make sure I'm not losing anything performance or quality/upgrade wise.


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
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MessengerAT wrote:
Vdub5818 wrote:
IC >A5 strictly because of the lower. True the upper is a better, stronger design but that in no way means the a5 or current spr setup is weak.



I am not well versed on how the lower is different in the two guns. Could you describe please what is different?

Thanks.


As van pointed out, all the ambi controls. The standard left side mag release is nice for me but the norgon has been working well in the operator, and that can be had from rainier for any lower. The main benefit is the right side bolt catch/release and how well it functions.

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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
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Vdub5818 wrote:
MessengerAT wrote:
Vdub5818 wrote:
IC >A5 strictly because of the lower. True the upper is a better, stronger design but that in no way means the a5 or current spr setup is weak.



I am not well versed on how the lower is different in the two guns. Could you describe please what is different?

Thanks.


As van pointed out, all the ambi controls. The standard left side mag release is nice for me but the norgon has been working well in the operator, and that can be had from rainier for any lower. The main benefit is the right side bolt catch/release and how well it functions.


If that is the only main difference on the lower, and the uppers are basically the same, minus the small differences in the rails, I'm still leaning M6A5. Though to be honest, if the liquorish barrel wasn't on the IC, I'd be more willing to go that route. I can't get past it.


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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
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You're not alone buddy :yeah:

The ORIGINAL IC didn't have the stupid candy cane barrel.

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 Post subject: Re: M6A5 vs. M6IC
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If that is the only main difference on the lower, and the uppers are basically the same, minus the small differences in the rails, I'm still leaning M6A5. Though to be honest, if the liquorish barrel wasn't on the IC, I'd be more willing to go that route. I can't get past it.


If you shoot righty, trust me, you want an IC lower. I personally love the spiral fluted barrels, mainly due to holding my operator then holding a 14.7" standard barrel a2. Much lighter up front. I like the looks too, but that is far from important.

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